Saturday, December 6, 2008

Top-Six Debate

I thought I would break down every team's top-six forwards and decide which teams has the most EFFICIENT set. Now, I'm saying the word efficient... not the best. A top-six forward's main objective is to score goals and create chances, I think we can all agree on that, so I thought it would be interesting to find out who is doing that job more effectively and has the stats to show for it. Before I even get started, it was actually tough to find the top-six forwards for some teams with injuries and rookies taking over their spots. I made a few judgment calls (Jere Lehtinen and Marian Gaborik were included on their team, Sam Gagner and A. Kostitsyn were not), but for the most part I think I for them hammered down pretty well. I also didn't pay attention to 2LW, 2RW, 2C, I just took the top 6 forwards, regardless of position. I took into account five main statistical categories: the three main ones are fairly obvious (goals, assists, points) and I also took into account the players +/- because it is a stat that shows whether a player is creating goals/chances or having them created against him. The last stat I used was PIM because it's important to throw the body around and everyone seems to make a big deal out of a forward scoring 100 PTS and having 100 PIM, so they must be somewhat important. So, here is how every team was broken down... (category leaders in bold)



G

A

PTS

+/-

PIM

Anaheim

(Getzlaf, Perry, Selanne, Kunitz, Morrison, R. Niedermayer)

43

69

112

0

147

Atlanta

(Kovalchuk, Kozlov, White, Little, Williams, Armstrong)

48

61

109

-8

73

Boston

(Savard, Kessel, Bergeron, Lucic, Ryder, Sturm)

44

68

112

+53

121

Buffalo

(Vanek, Pominville, Roy, Afinogenov, Connolly, Stafford)

38

45

83

-15

52

Calgary

(Iginla, Bertuzzi, Langkow, Cammaleri, Conroy, Lombardi)

39

62

101

-19

88

Carolina

(Whitney, Ruutu, Stall, Brind'Amour, Samsonov, Eaves)

33

43

76

-24

94

Chicago

(Kane, Toews, Sharp, Havlat, Versteeg, Ladd)

48

71

119

+30

89

Colorado

(Sakic, Smyth, Wolski, Svatos, Hejduk, Stastny)

35

56

91

-31

88

Colombus

(Nash, Brassard, Huselius, Umberger, Voracek, Modin)

46

54

100

+14

76

Dallas

(Richards, Modano, Ribeiro, Morrow, Lehtinen, Brunnstrom)

33

52

85

-21

77

Detroit

(Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Hossa, Franzen, Holmstrom, Filppula)

53

62

115

+29

78

Edmonton

(Hemsky, Horcoff, Penner, Cole, Nilsson, Cogliano)

33

47

80

+7

86

Florida

(Horton, Weiss, Booth, Olesz, Zednik, Stillman)

31

32

63

+8

52

Los Angeles

(Kopitar, Frolov, Brown, O'Sullivan, Handzus, Stoll)

42

45

87

+11

94

Minnesota

(Koivu, Brunette, Bouchard, Gaborik, Nolan, Miettinen)

36

52

88

0

52

Montreal

(Kovalev, Koivu, Higgins, Tanguay, Lang, Plekanec)

40

57

97

+27

82

Nashville

(Dumont, Arnott, Erat, Legwand, Hornqvist, Fiddler)

35

52

87

+1

72

New Jersey

(Parise, Gionta, Elias, Maddon, Langenbrunner, Zubrus)

43

72

115

+38

101

New York Islanders

(Weight, Hunter, Guerin, Comrie, Okposo, Hilbert)

35

51

86

-26

81

New York Rangers

(Gomez, Drury, Zherdev, Naslund, Dubinsky, Callahan)

42

61

103

-16

107

Ottawa

(Alfredsson, Heatley, Spezza, Fisher, Vermette, Foligno)

37

48

85

-14

89

Philadelphia

(Briere, Gagne, Richards, Carter, Knuble, Hartnell)

62

58

120

+23

106

Phoenix

(Doan, Jokinen, Hanzal, Mueller, Turris, Boedker)

37

55

92

+3

101

Pittsburgh

(Malkin, Crosby, Satan, Sykora, Stall, Fedotenko)

53

83

136

+33

91

San Jose

(Thornton, Cheechoo, Marleau, Setoguchi, Clowe, Michalek)

55

84

139

+48

79

St. Louis

(Boyes, Kariya, Tkachuk, McDonald, Perron, Steen)

35

53

88

-34

73

Tampa Bay

(Lecavalier, St. Louis, Recchi, Prospal, Malone, Stamkos)

37

56

93

-22

90

Toronto

(Antropov, Ponikarovsky, Grabovski, Stempniak, Hagman, Stajan)

46

65

111

-8

62

Vancouver

(D. Sedin, H. Sedin, Demitra, Wellwood, Kesler, Burrows)

45

60

105

29

85

Washington

(Ovechkin, Semin, Backstrom, Nylander, Fedorov, Kozlov)

45

77

122

+34

92

Then, I decided to add all of their points together, with ½ of their +/- and ¼ of their PIM to find out who really is the most efficient and effective top-six; then I decided that 200.00 would be a bench-mark of 100%. Here is how it all broke down...


  1. San Jose - 182.75 = 91.375%

  2. Anaheim - 175.75 = 87.875%

  3. Pittsburgh - 175.25 = 87.625%

  4. Boston - 168.75 = 84.375%

  5. Washington - 162.00 = 81.000%

  6. NJD - 159.25 = 79.625%

  7. Philadelphia - 158.00 = 79.000%

  8. Chicago - 156.25 = 78.125%

  9. Detroit - 149.00 = 74.500%

  10. Vancouver - 140.75 = 70.375%

  11. Calgary - 132.50 = 66.250%

  12. Montreal - 131.00 = 65.500%

  13. Columbus - 126.00 = 63.000%

  14. Atlanta - 123.25 = 61.625%

  15. Toronto - 122.50 = 61.250%

  16. NYR - 121.75 = 60.875%

  17. Phoenix - 118.75 = 59.375%

  18. Los Angeles - 116.00 = 58.000%

  19. Nashville - 105.50 = 52.750%

  20. Edmonton - 105.00 = 52.500%

  21. Tampa Bay - 104.50 = 52.250%

  22. Minnesota - 101.00 = 50.500%

  23. Ottawa - 100.25 = 50.125%

  24. Colorado - 97.50 = 48.750%

  25. Carolina – 97.50 = 48.750%

  26. Dallas - 93.75 = 46.875%

  27. NYI - 93.25 = 46.625%

  28. St. Louis - 89.25 = 44.625%

  29. Buffalo - 88.50 = 44.250%

  30. Florida - 80.00 = 40.000%

So, take away what you wish from it, just thought I would dig up some stats and establish who really is the most effective group of six in the NHL, not necessarily the best. It's interesting to note that the top 12 teams are all in the playoffs and of that 12, six are from the West and six are from the East. Tomorrow, I'll take a look at the top six Dmen on NHL teams.

Cheers.
-Smith

5 comments:

  1. k so great that you did a bunch of research but what the f&*$? 1/4 of their penalty minutes? 1/2 their plus minus? What the hell? 200 as a benchmark?! Where is all this coming from? Clearly everyone knows that San Jose is the best team thus why they would have the best 6 forwards, this post was absolutley retarted. Like, i read it and the whole time was like, WTF?!
    MAybe you should do something, cus you seem reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy bored!

    ReplyDelete
  2. I wasn't proving who was the best, like i stated, dumbass. I would much rather have Phili's or Detroit's top six then San Jose's if I wanted the best six. And im only taking 1/4 PIM and 1/2 +/- because they are not as important as a Goal or an Assist, I thought that would be clearly obviously to a hockey guy like you. I think this is just all some more rage because the Oilers are (yet again) near the bottom of something. I know Drew will understand and appreciate my hard work.

    ReplyDelete
  3. so what the hell was the point of this shamble of retarted facts?

    ReplyDelete
  4. i thought it was really well done, it makes a lot of sense actually. I think the whole math thing is what confused kyle, hes still stuck on the equation 1+1...(he thinks it equals oilers) ahahahaha

    ReplyDelete
  5. wow couple of Oiler haters just gangin up on me
    well seeing as neither the flames or stars are gonna win the cup in the next century it makes me feel all warm inside. Oh and Drew
    Q: How do you find Calgary?
    A: Walk south until you smell it and then west until you step in it.

    Q: What do the Flames and the Titanic have in common?
    A: They both look terrific until they hit the ice.

    Q: What do the Calgary Stampeders and the Calgary Flames have in common?
    A: Neither team can play hockey . . . or football.

    Q: Why can't Pamela Anderson support the Flames?
    A: The Flames' one cup can't support her.


    oh and some math for you....how do the calgary flames count to 2?

    1........they cant count any further

    ReplyDelete